Craigslist Trade Offers- Montego Edition

"MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner" (montegoman562) 10/10/2016 at 11:15 • Filed to: MONTEGO, Mercury, MERCURYMUSCLE, For Sale

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So here’s what I’ve been offered so far while trying to sell or trade the Montego.

01 BMW 325ci

93 Cobra if I paid HIM money (no thanks)

96 GT Mustang V8 5 speed (Possibility, but he needs to throw in cash, these go for about 2500-3000)

03 Grand Marquis

67 Galaxie Fast Back Project

93 S10 with a V8 swap

05 V6 Mustang

Notchback Mustang with an unfinished V8 that hysterically has a huge custom headliner for a brand of weed. Which was featured in...a weed shop.

91 Fox body with tied frame and roll bar in it (actually interested in this one).

1982 Mercury Cougar

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Interesting pile of cars!

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For Sweden > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 11:19

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Will you take Oppsitelock moderatorship for said Mazda-Montego?

Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 11:23

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Depending on the “project” state, I’d go with the galaxie

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction 10/10/2016 at 11:25

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That puts me in the same boat. The goal here is to get a car I can rallyX, Galaxie is even BIGGER than the Montego

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > For Sweden 10/10/2016 at 11:26

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I don’t have a Mazda Montego to trade you

TheHondaBro > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 11:26

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Do you have a Mercury Miata?

For Sweden > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 11:28

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That’s too bad

Snuze: Needs another Swede > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 11:32

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So...? Big cars like to rally too!

Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 11:42

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Ok, that might be a problem then. The other cars don’t seem to fit either.

Will Race For Food > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 11:52

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Wanted to say BMW, but e46's don’t have limited slip diffs from factory (with the lone exception being the M3), so it’s probably not worth it from a cost perspective. An aftermarket diff probably costs in the region of 1k or more, which, I assume, you’d not be interested in spending.

What do you mean by “tied frame”, by the way? If that is a weird way of saying it has a roll cage, the foxbody is probably a steal

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Will Race For Food 10/10/2016 at 12:58

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I actually meant to say roll cage in that line but was distracted, because it does have one of those. Tied frame means either through welding or bargain wise with bolts you connect the front and rear subframes with “add-on” frame rails. It makes the car ridiculously more stiff.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > For Sweden 10/10/2016 at 12:59

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I’d be happy to trade my Mercury Montego to you for $3900 + mod powers....ok I’ll be generous, 3750.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > TheHondaBro 10/10/2016 at 13:00

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Nah, decided I probably don’t want the FWD Mercury Miata Capri

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Snuze: Needs another Swede 10/10/2016 at 13:02

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It was hard enough rallying the 3200 pound Mercury Milan. I also don’t remember if the Galaxie was unibody or not, because the Montego is and that’s no good. The fox bodies are easily re-enforced with cheap aftermarket parts so it excuses them on the unibody front.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction 10/10/2016 at 13:05

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the 91 and 96 mustangs would do fine. Smaller and easily modifiable. Strut tower braces, frame ties, new rear control arms, a set of tires and you’re driving your Mustang off road.

My problem with the 96 is it’s a 4.6L from the slowest generation of 4.6's and it’s just not a fair trade, they are listed on craigslist at around 1000-1400 below what my car is listed at. If he wants to put cash on the hood I’ll trade today.

My biggest worry in the 91 Fox is that he has a 5.0 over bored up to a 347 and he claims to have a nitrous set up on it. That’s a big bore/stroke to then add nitrous to the mix, I’d be instantly worried about the engine’s internals.

Justin Hughes > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 13:13

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I’ll trade you for my old wheelbarrow
And a slightly used sombrero
And I’ll even throw in a stapler if you insist...

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Justin Hughes 10/10/2016 at 13:22

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I’m almost disappointed that I haven’t gotten anything like that or my usual joke of “I have a semi-functional toaster to trade”.

EMPHASIS ON ALMOST

Will Race For Food > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 13:55

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Not sure about the US, but here the roll cage has to be welded in for you to be allowed to actually compete somewhere. “Screw-type” (that’s a rough translation from Latvia) roll cages are not really allowed anywhere.

Still, if you can get a caged car, I would say go for it. Unless you want to drive it on the street - bucket seats and racing harnesses would get very annoying very quickly in day to day driving.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Will Race For Food 10/10/2016 at 14:51

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Only the frame ties are “bolt on” or screw-type. The roll cage should be welded. They look like this under the car:

http://www.cjponyparts.com/bmr-full-length-subframe-connectors-coupe-hatchback-1979-1993/p/SFC31/?year=1989&gclid=CjwKEAjw-Oy_BRDg4Iqok57a4kcSJADsuDK1SIU1I5VKC3NSopfYsrCqNTuyf_PPFWrP3az_lV44vBoCVxzw_wcB

19JRC99 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 15:02

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Sorry to see my buddy never called. Can’t say I’m too surprised, though.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 19JRC99 10/10/2016 at 15:03

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That’s alright. You can feel free to remind him it’s still available though!

shop-teacher > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/10/2016 at 19:15

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Yesterday I was offered a ‘91 S-10 V6 5-speed in trade for the Roadmaster. I was interested until he sent me pics of the other side all smashed to crap.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > shop-teacher 10/11/2016 at 09:51

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BAH

That 91 Mustang has a hell of a motor in it. It’s way more motor than I need for rally....347 stroker.

I know for sure if I make a trade for this car I won’t be wanting to upgrade power at all. I may want to swap the carb for something more “off road ready” but I’d have to see what’s on it first. Hard to tell from these little pictures. This is a real possibility this one.

shop-teacher > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/11/2016 at 09:59

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Oh man. That’d be beast! Good luck putting all that power down :D

Snuze: Needs another Swede > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/11/2016 at 10:57

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I know, I was mostly being facetious.

Also, I saw your comments below. I think you’re right on with the Fox Body - pretty easy to stiffen up with aftermarket parts. As for the nitrous, it depends on how big the shot is, how well it’s setup, and how often it was used. A well sorted nitrous system is no harder on an engine than a turbo or supercharger. The danger is, with nitrous you can go really lean, really fast, and thats when you really start to break stuff. With a FI setup you get at least some kind of warning, usually.

As for the 96, that should have the non-PI (Power Improvement) top end (intake manifold, cylinder heads, and cams). You should be able to source the PI top end off a 99 and later 4.6L for quite cheap. It will give you a nice bump from 215HP to 260HP.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > shop-teacher 10/11/2016 at 11:27

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That’s going to be a massive problem I think.

Makes me want to trade the car, rip out the motor and sell it on a stand and put in a base healthy 5.0. I’d honestly prefer fuel injection for rally. A lot better off road consistency wise.

shop-teacher > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/11/2016 at 11:36

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I think if you go that route, maybe sell the motor while it’s still in the car, so people can see/hear it running, and then stick in a healthy 5.0. I think you’ll get more money for it that way.

If you decide to keep the motor, Holley makes (or made, I’m not exactly up on carbs these days) a truck avenger carb, specifically for trucks that get bounced around offroad. That could be a good option.

uofime-2 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/11/2016 at 11:48

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Did you figure out the problem and the the Montego running?

I like the fox.

The benefit of the 347 is that since it is bored out they would have been forced to replace the pistons and assuming they planned to run smack when they built the motor and were reasonably intelligent they would have used forged pistons and set the ring gap appropriately that makes running nitrous relatively safe other than fueling issues that cause quick obviious death.

Still get a compression test done before buying obviously.

Check out the welds and wiring to make sure corners weren’t cut

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Snuze: Needs another Swede 10/11/2016 at 12:00

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You’d be surprised how many people have told me to just Rally the Montego lol.

He says he got it all built, ran the motor in the garage and hasn’t driven it out of the garage or put any nitrous through it. Assuming I can trust the guy that just means I can rip the nitrous system off the car and sell that to pay for some serious GRIP improvements because a 347 stroker in a Rally Mustang is a TON of power to try and grab mud with. I’d really prefer to swap this set up to fuel injection because it’s so much more controlled in non-consistent off road environments.

I like the 96, but like you said I need the PI top end to get the thing moving plus I still probably need some bracing on the SN95 frame and I would need tires/wheels to get moving off road. So that’s why I’d like some cash with that trade.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > uofime-2 10/11/2016 at 12:02

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Have not figured out the Montego so this would be in it’s current state. I just haven’t had time to work on it.

Here’s the pics I was provided of the Fox: